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Machine translation providers, compatibility & QA options | Thanks!

April 13, 2015, 6:33 am
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Forum: Déjà Vu support
Topic: Machine translation providers, compatibility & QA options
Poster: sarahkerkache
Post title: Thanks!

Thank you both for your quick replies, this is very helpful.
Best regards,

Sarah
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Deja Vu workflows with non-users | Two ways of doing that

April 13, 2015, 7:44 am
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Forum: Déjà Vu support
Topic: Deja Vu workflows with non-users
Poster: Atril Team
Post title: Two ways of doing that

[quote]sarahkerkache wrote:

Hello again,

If I may add another question, we are looking at setting up a workflow with Studio and Déja Vu users. Is there an option in DV similar to the Export to Word batch task in Studio? (This allows us to export content from Studio into a custom Word format and then to re-import the results later for TM updates).

Thanks again!

Sarah [/quote]

Hello again Sarah,

I think you are describing RTF External views.
More information can be found here and there.

External views will allow a translator/proofreader to translate/edit the cntent of your project and leave comments as well. Of course, External views can be imported back to your project to replicate the modifications.

Having said that, i would advise you to use XLIFF in order to dispatch the workload to translators using another CAT tool.

Kind regards,
Etienne
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What is Atril up to?

April 21, 2015, 12:31 am
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Forum: Déjà Vu support
Topic: What is Atril up to?
Poster: Epameinondas Soufleros

Since Kilgray, SDL, and Wordfast are ready to launch new versions of their products (memoQ 2015, SDL Trados Studio 2015, Wordfast Pro 4), I am wondering what Atril are up to these days.

I know that a few months back some persons in Atril changed roles (and titles). But what else has happened? The latest press release on their website is from 2013; on the page with the latest releases ("Version history") the links are inactive; the latest update is from January (which is essentially the December update with a couple of urgent fixes in it). So, what is going on? Are they still in business? Will there be a DVX4?

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What is Atril up to? | Can we safely continue using DV?

April 21, 2015, 12:51 am
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Forum: Déjà Vu support
Topic: What is Atril up to?
Poster: Olav Karlsen
Post title: Can we safely continue using DV?

With ever-changing operating systems and file formats it is essential that the DV staff is operative. Can we trust them to be active the nextfew years, or do we have to we migrate to another CAT system? I need to have my relatively new DVX3 updated, not any expensive upgrade right now. Every hour passing by without any response from Atril will play the "buying game" into the hands of the competitors.

[Edited at 2015-04-21 12:22 GMT]

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What is Atril up to? | Active links

April 21, 2015, 2:49 am
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Forum: Déjà Vu support
Topic: What is Atril up to?
Poster: stake
Post title: Active links

[quote]Epameinondas Soufleros wrote:

on the page with the latest releases ("Version history") the links are inactive[/quote]

I've just checked their website and the links are active.

I do hope Atril will continue with DVX. In my opinion it's the best translator-oriented CAT tool on the market.
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What is Atril up to? | A few comments

April 21, 2015, 8:52 am
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Forum: Déjà Vu support
Topic: What is Atril up to?
Poster: Atril Team
Post title: A few comments

Hello Epa,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on Atril's development roadmap and communication policy.

I do agree that the website can be optimised and new press releases will make sure to keep you and the Déjà Vu community informed.

With regard to our development roadmap, Atril’s R&D department is working continuously to ensure that Déjà Vu and TEAMserver clients are always up-to-date, among other things, with the latest changes to OS and file formats.
As we speak, the Team is working on new updates for the current version and advancing on the forthcoming Déjà Vu, which will be released as an upgradable version if the provided added value provided justifies it.

Unlike from our competitors, releasing an upgradable new version when the current version is barely a year old, is not the highest priority for Atril.
Our policy, as our track record shows, is to further improve the existing version and provide additional features – free of charge– to DVX3 users. Why should users purchase a new version 12 months later if they already made an investment in the current one?

The December update you mentioned is an excellent example of our policy. Here is the entire feature list, also available on [url removed]

Features

  • Completely rewritten Adobe InDesign IDML filter with support for inline formatting, fewer codes and faster import and export.
  • Added support for ignoring locked text frames when importing Adobe InDesign IDML files.
  • Replaced the PDF converter component used by the PDF filter, for improved inline formatting and preview capabilities.
  • Added support for specifying whether to use textboxes for layout (rather than "flowing" text) when converting PDF files (useful for PDFs with tables).
  • Added support for using the PDF converter in Word 2013 to perform PDF to DOC conversions in the PDF filter.
  • Added support for importing and exporting comments in SDLXLIFF files
  • Added support for handling compressed XLIFF (XLZ, MQXLZ) files transparently in the XLIFF filter.
  • Added support for XLIFF External View export in Déjà Vu X3 Professional.
  • Added support for synchronizing client and subject lists with TEAMserver.
  • Added Dutch UI translation


    • I can share with you that a new update to DVX3 is in the pipeline and will be made, again, available free of charge to DVX3 users.

    What other services do Déjà Vu X3 users benefit from free of charge?
    Support: Atril’s Support Team is second to none and highly responsive. I invite you to test it yourself.
    Training: Webinars are scheduled and communicated on a monthly basis to our client database. This is an excellent way to familiarise yourself with the many great features, including the powerful fuzzy match repair – a Déjà Vu exclusive.

    Join us also during Proz.com free webinar week on Tuesday, May 5th at 13:00 GMT and visit us at the Atril booth at the EUATC in Lisbon, April 23-24.

    In all, 2015 will be an exciting year for Atril and the Déjà Vu community. Stay tuned for upcoming press releases or contact us directly: [email removed] or [email removed]

    Best regards,
    Claudio

    [Edited at 2015-04-21 18:20 GMT]
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    Déjà Vu X3 Uer manual

    April 21, 2015, 9:22 am
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    Forum: Déjà Vu support
    Topic: Déjà Vu X3 Uer manual
    Poster: Clarisa Moraña

    Dear colleagues

    I'm working in a project using Déjà Vu X3 and I realise that there are a couple of issues I could solve if I had a User Manual. I cannot find it at the Atril site nor I found the help files in the software.

    Your help would be appreciate.

    Kind regards

    Clarisa
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    Déjà Vu X3 Uer manual | Download Déjà Vu X3 User Manuals

    April 21, 2015, 9:35 am
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    Forum: Déjà Vu support
    Topic: Déjà Vu X3 Uer manual
    Poster: Caroline Bajwel
    Post title: Download Déjà Vu X3 User Manuals

    Hello,
    You should be able to download what you need here:

    [url removed]

    Best Regards
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    Déjà Vu X3 Uer manual | Right!

    April 21, 2015, 9:45 am
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    Forum: Déjà Vu support
    Topic: Déjà Vu X3 Uer manual
    Poster: Clarisa Moraña
    Post title: Right!

    [quote]Caroline Bajwel wrote:

    Hello,
    You should be able to download what you need here:

    [url removed]

    Best Regards [/quote]

    Dear Caroline

    I appreciate your help. The file I needed was there. I downloaded the User Manual: [url removed]

    Kind regards

    Clarisa
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    A survey on on the Users’ Perspectives of the Functions of Translation Memory

    April 22, 2015, 12:26 am
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    Forum: Déjà Vu support
    Topic: A survey on on the Users’ Perspectives of the Functions of Translation Memory
    Poster: Jessicaliu

    Hi,

    I'm a research student in translation from Hong Kong. I'm collecting CAT users' experience for TM and sub-segment functions in CAT tools. Please take a 3-minute survey [url removed] to give me your opinion.

    The results of this survey will be published in my thesis later this year, probably in the form of a MPhil thesis.

    I would really appreciate your help.

    Best,

    Jessica Liu
    CUHK
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    Object variable or With block variable not set

    April 22, 2015, 5:37 am
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    Forum: Déjà Vu support
    Topic: Object variable or With block variable not set
    Poster: Pavel Tsvetkov

    Dear All,

    1. I am working on a very big and (naturally) urgent project, consisting of several very big .docx Word 2007 files, heavily formatted and full of tables and graphics.
    I have tried exporting one of the biggest files in the batch several times now, but Deja Vu x3 Pro crashes every time.

    Here is the error report:

    Error signature
    Name: Engine
    Version: 9.0.723
    Number: 91
    Error: Object variable or With block variable not set
    Module: AsposeWordFilter
    Procedure: ReconstructParagraphRecursive
    Line: 2420

    2. When I open the original file in Word 2007 and perform "Check All Objects" from the Dejavu X3 add-on, it reports that:

    The current document contains:
    Total embedded objects: 7
    Legacy Office 2003 objects: 0
    Office 2007-2013 objects: 0
    Non-processable embedded objects: 7
    The workbook contains at least one embedded object that cannot be converted or processed by Deja Vu X3.

    3. Should those embedded objects be deleted/edited before the file is imported into Deja Vu X3? How can they be located in the first place?

    Please, help!

    [Edited at 2015-04-22 12:42 GMT]
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    Object variable or With block variable not set | Import it using MS Office 2007/2010 filter

    April 22, 2015, 5:41 am
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    Forum: Déjà Vu support
    Topic: Object variable or With block variable not set
    Poster: Atril Team
    Post title: Import it using MS Office 2007/2010 filter

    [quote]Pavel Tsvetkov wrote:

    Dear All,

    I am working on a very big and (naturally) urgent project, consisting of several very big .docx Word 2007 files, heavily formatted and full of tables and graphics.
    I have tried exporting one of the biggest files in the batch several times now, but Deja Vu x3 Pro crashes every time.

    Here is the error report:

    Error signature
    Name: Engine
    Version: 9.0.723
    Number: 91
    Error: Object variable or With block variable not set
    Module: AsposeWordFilter
    Procedure: ReconstructParagraphRecursive
    Line: 2420

    Please, help! [/quote]

    Hello Pavel,

    Can you please:

    - Import this file using MS Office 2007/2010 filter? (From the project explorer, right click on the file > Properties, and chose the previous filter)
    - Send this file to [email removed] in order for us to investigate?

    Thank you,
    Atril Team

    [Edited at 2015-04-22 12:46 GMT]
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    Object variable or With block variable not set | .

    April 22, 2015, 7:08 am
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    Forum: Déjà Vu support
    Topic: Object variable or With block variable not set
    Poster: Pavel Tsvetkov
    Post title: .

    Dear Atril Support,

    1. Thank you for your reply.
    2. I have added further information to my initial post – please, check and let me know if this gives you a better idea of the problem.
    3. Unfortunately, when I right click on the file > Properties, no window or menu opens, so I am not able to change the filter.
    4. I also tried manually looking for and deleting all embedded objects in Word, then re-importing, pretranslating and manually editing the file, but when I exported it Deja vu X3 Pro crashed again.
    5. By the way, when I try to send a report of the error to Atril (as prompted by Deja vu X3), it is always unsuccessful. Have you set your system to receive those reports?
    6. If you do get the source file to take a look, how quickly can you check it and come back with a solution? This is really an emergency.

    Any further suggestions are welcome.

    Best regards,
    Pavel Tsvetkov

    [Edited at 2015-04-22 14:23 GMT]

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    Object variable or With block variable not set | Remote sess

    April 22, 2015, 7:35 am
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    Forum: Déjà Vu support
    Topic: Object variable or With block variable not set
    Poster: Atril Team
    Post title: Remote sess

    Hi Pavel,

    Support received your email and the file.
    We're conducting some tests right now, but for a quicker resolution please donwload and install Teamviewer.
    Then, send us your ID and password and we'll connect to your machine.

    Kind regards,
    Etienne

    Edit: we could import, pseudotranslate and export the file. Let us know when you are available for a remote session.

    [Edited at 2015-04-22 15:49 GMT]
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    Object variable or With block variable not set | Great work—thank you!

    April 22, 2015, 1:05 pm
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    Forum: Déjà Vu support
    Topic: Object variable or With block variable not set
    Poster: Pavel Tsvetkov
    Post title: Great work—thank you!

    Hi Etienne,

    1. Problem solved! The MS Office 2007/2010 did the job, as you predicted. The file exported OK, and I have now sent it to the client!
    2. I will keep in mind that it is a good idea to first pseudotranslate big/complex files and export them before starting real work on them, to make sure it will all work out OK in the end—thank you for the tip.

    Once again, you did a great job!

    Best regards,
    Pavel Tsvetkov

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    The name in the end tag of the element must match the element type in the start tag.

    April 25, 2015, 4:10 am
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    Forum: Déjà Vu support
    Topic: The name in the end tag of the element must match the element type in the start tag.
    Poster: Pavel Tsvetkov

    Dear All,

    In continuation of my work on the project, which created the last problem (posted here a couple of days ago), I have now run into another software bug, as explained below:

    1. I translated another of the files in the project and exported it.

    2. Word 2013 refused to open the translated file, reporting that:

    The name in the end tag of the element must match the element type in the start tag.
    Location: Part: /word/document.xml, Line: 2, Column: 164780

    3. I Googled "The name in the end tag of the element must match the element type in the start tag." and came across this article: [url removed]

    4. In their brash manner Microsoft think they know exactly what is wrong with their own software (and they should) and have provided a fix for you to download, run and apply. Which I did.

    5. The "Fix it" tool did its magic and pronounced the file fixed. However, Word still refused to open it, reporting the same problem.

    6. I have now tried (4-5 times already) saving the original file in .doc and .docx format (new and old .docx format, if you are wondering which), running and not running CodeZapper, importing the resulting source version, pretranslating it, fixing it, what not, exporting it, only to find out that Word still refuses to open the resulting file.

    From comments on message boards I have learned that using the information

    Location: Part: /word/document.xml, Line: 2, Column: 164780

    ...the file document.xml (one of the constituent files, accessible when the exported .docx has been renamed to .zip) can be edited directly in a .xml editor and fixed manually, however, I am not sure I can do it myself.

    I am running out of options here, help is appreciated!

    Best regards,
    Pavel Tsvetkov

    [Edited at 2015-04-25 13:46 GMT]
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    The name in the end tag of the element must match the element type in the start tag. | Split/merge?

    April 25, 2015, 7:07 am
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    Forum: Déjà Vu support
    Topic: The name in the end tag of the element must match the element type in the start tag.
    Poster: Matthias Brombach
    Post title: Split/merge?

    Hi Pavel,

    did you split / merge segments anywhere in your project, where MS Word may have a problem with it?
    Perhaps try to reimport and avoid any splitting / merging. At least this can cause problems with sdlxliff files. Just a suggestion.

    Good luck,

    Matthias
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    Déjà vu x2 Workgroup refusing to export 75% of translated files | 2 years later: a similar problem and an identical solution

    April 25, 2015, 2:42 pm
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    Forum: Déjà Vu support
    Topic: Déjà vu x2 Workgroup refusing to export 75% of translated files
    Poster: Pavel Tsvetkov
    Post title: 2 years later: a similar problem and an identical solution

    Dear All,

    Fast forward 2 years and I am having a similar problem (check the thread here:

    [url removed]

    ...and I used a solution, similar to the one I described above: saving the original (source) file into .rtf, translating it, exporting it, opening it in Word and saving it back as .docx.

    Voilà!

    Even the Microsoft Fix-it tool failed where this simple method succeeded...

    Best regards,
    Pavel Tsvetkov

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    The name in the end tag of the element must match the element type in the start tag. | Solved! (Shame on you, Microsoft!)

    April 25, 2015, 3:19 pm
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    Forum: Déjà Vu support
    Topic: The name in the end tag of the element must match the element type in the start tag.
    Poster: Pavel Tsvetkov
    Post title: Solved! (Shame on you, Microsoft!)

    Dear Mathias,

    1. Thank you for your suggestion. It seems that in this case the culprit can be found elsewhere. The problem (as described by Microsoft) "is related strictly to oMath tags and occurs when a graphical object or text box is anchored to the same paragraph that contains the equation.":

    It is a matter of incorrect tags in the .xml file that .doc and .docx files actually are...

    That said, I did download and try their Fix it! tool and it did nothing (still, said tool can be found here:

    [url removed]

    ...and the explanations are worth reading for the brave of heart! :)

    2. I did have a feeling, however, that something like this had happened to me before. I was able to recover an old thread:

    [url removed]

    ...and the solution that I initially found back in 2013 worked for me again!

    What I did was the following:

    A. I opened the original file (non-translated) in Word and saved it as .rtf [Please, note that the resulting file will be rather big... enormous actually. In my case the original .docx file was 847 KB and the resulting .rtf was 47,7 MB (!)]
    B. I then spell-checked the file and ran CodeZapper! on it (prepared it for translation).
    C. Then I added it to the list of files to be translated in Deja vu X3 Pro, that is, I added it to the project in the Project Explorer window (upper right-hand corner).
    D. The file was added, but grayed out, as it was not imported yet. I clicked the file in the list and then (in the lower right corner of DJV's window) clicked on "Properties" next to "AutoSearch - Portions". This shows the "Import Options" window.
    E. From the drop down menu I chose "Rich Text Format" as [import] Filter. I imported the file.
    F. I pretranslated the file, manually edited and filled in all segments that needed work, and then exported the finished .rtf file.
    G. I then opened the resulting .rtf file in Word and saved it as .docx, which then opened without a problem! Voilà!

    So, the only downside is that .rtf files are rather big, and if your original .doc or .docx file is big, then the resulting .rtf file may become unmanageable.

    Apart from that, however, it works like a charm, and I do find it strange that Microsoft have not thought of this solution.

    I hope this long explanation will help another translator in need some day...

    Best regards,
    Pavel Tsvetkov
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    The name in the end tag of the element must match the element type in the start tag. | Glad to hear...

    April 26, 2015, 1:23 am
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    Forum: Déjà Vu support
    Topic: The name in the end tag of the element must match the element type in the start tag.
    Poster: Matthias Brombach
    Post title: Glad to hear...

    that you finally found a solution! :-)
    My next suggestion would have been to create for you an sdlxliff from your file in question, because Studio sometimes unfortunately can handle problematic Word files better than Deja Vu does. But I assume you tried that trick by yourself?

    Best regards,
    Matthias
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